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Highway vs. High Speed Rail

Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:05 AM EDT
travel, car, florida, transportation, airport, train, orlando, automobile, tampa, rail, highway, high-speed-rail, i-4
By Bob O'Malley
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HIGHWAY VS. HIGH SPEED RAIL

A user cost/time comparison for Tampa-Orlando commuters

Significant media attention has been given to the expected $2.5 billion cost of the Tampa-Orlando portion of the proposed Florida High Speed Rail system. When it comes to the cost to the user of the system however, the public discussion has been limited. User cost comparisons between highway and high speed rail (HSR) have been nonexistent or anecdotal at best. The following analysis seeks to encourage further discussion about the user cost-benefit of both highway and high speed rail commuting, between Orlando and Tampa in this particular case. Cost-benefit was analyzed based on two primary factors: cost (in dollars) and time (in minutes).

METHODOLOGY

While the methodology used is certainly open to criticism, every effort was made to balance any limitations across both modes. An objective methodology was developed before any calculations were made. The following sources were used to determine various metrics:

  • Travel time: Mapquest.com for automobile travel, Florida High Speed Rail website (www.floridahighspeedrail.org) for HSR travel
  • Automobile cost: IRS 2010 Standard Mileage Rate
  • HSR cost: Anticipated fare according to Florida High Speed Rail website
  • Parking cost: Daily parking rates listed on websites for City of Tampa and Orlando International Airport

The most variable factor used in the analysis is origin and destination. Travel times and costs vary depending on where the trip begins and ends, whether by car or rail. Using the endpoints of the high speed rail system would not be an objective or fair choice, since for most users it is unlikely that a trip would begin and end at those locations. The preferred method would be to select random addresses in both Central Florida and Tampa Bay and then calculate the time and cost for a trip to and from those locations and then average the results. In the interest of time though, this analysis compares only one origin and destination. The City Halls of both Orlando and Tampa seemed to be the fairest locations to analyze since both are the symbolic centers of each region. The analysis considers a trip originated at Orlando City Hall and ending at Tampa City Hall, and then returning after a daylong meeting. The analysis assumes a single commuter. It should be noted that the cost of automobile travel remains constant with the addition of passengers (carpooling), while high speed rail travel increases in cost for additional passengers because additional fares must be purchased.

To fully compare cost and time, several factors of a complete trip must be considered. For the cost of car travel, these include fuel and wear-and-tear costs (which is why the IRS standard rate was used) and the cost to park the car. Time estimations for car travel were based on Mapquest.com. Estimated time does not include time to park a car or delays related to traffic congestion. Based on these assumptions, the following formulas were used to analyze user cost and time for car travel.

COST = 85 miles x 2 (round trip) x $0.50 (IRS rate) + $10 (parking at Tampa City Hall)

TIME = 88 minutes x 2 (round trip)

For high speed rail, the assumption was made that a user would drive a car from Orlando City Hall to Orlando International Airport, at which a HSR station will be located. Of course, a user could take public transportation, but this likely would add to the time. A user also could be driven to the origin by a friend or relative, thus avoiding the parking cost, but that seemed to be a biased assumption, and would ignore the cost incurred by the friend or relative. The trip would end at the Tampa Intermodal Center. The Tampa Intermodal Center is located 3 miles from Tampa City Hall. The distance was factored into the cost and time assuming hypothetical car travel. Walking is possible, but would add to the time. The availability of a car (friend/relative) is assumed. This flawed assumption is minor given the short distance.

User costs for HSR include the car cost described above (fuel and wear-and-tear), parking and the HSR fare. HSR time was based on Mapquest.com for car travel and the expected travel time according to the Florida High speed Rail website (“just under an hour”). Estimated time does not include time to park, delays related to traffic congestion or headway variability (waiting for the train to depart/arrive). Based on these assumptions, the following formulas were used to analyze user cost and time for car travel.

COST = 13 total car miles x 2 (round trip) x $0.50 (IRS rate) + $30 (one-way fare) x 2 (round trip) + $10 (Satellite parking at OIA)

TIME = 20 minutes (Orlando City Hall to OIA) + 3 minutes (TIC to Tampa City Hall) + 55 minutes x 2 (round trip)

RESULTS

Based on these formulas, the following cost and time comparison between automobile and high speed rail travel between Orlando and Tampa can be made.

CAR:

Total cost: $95

Total time: 176 minutes

HSR:

Total cost: $83

Total time: 156 minutes

According to these calculations, a two-way high speed rail trip between Orlando and Tampa is $12 cheaper and 20 minutes faster than the same trip made exclusively by automobile.

INTANGIBLE FACTORS

Of course, there are intangible factors that also should be considered when comparing the two modes. Car travel is more flexible. Should a meeting end early, a commuter who traveled by automobile can leave immediately, whereas the departure of a high speed rail commuter would depend on the train schedule. Automobile travel also allows for trip-chaining. For example, a car commuter can stop at other destinations along the way, either as planned or spontaneously. Automobile travel also is flexible because additional passengers can be added with no additional cost. High speed rail travel is more productive. Train commuters can read or work on a laptop during their commute.

Admittedly, this is a simple analysis of the user benefits of car and high speed rail travel. More comprehensive and detailed analysis can and should be conducted. Still, the results of this analysis provide a good overview of the user cost/time benefits of the two modes. If detractors criticize the simplicity and conduct a more thorough examination, that would be even better. As stated in the opening paragraph, more discussion about transportation investments should be encouraged.

Comparisons aside, perhaps the most important aspect of this analysis is that it is based on the availability of travel options. By nature, comparisons indicate the ability to choose. Comparing the user cost/time benefit of these modes is important, but even more important is the fact that Florida commuters will soon have a choice.

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Man of Knowledge

Good article. I suggest you next look at long term costs. Your assumptions are for current fuel cost and availability. How would the cost be affected by say an increase in the price of both to $5 a gallon? How do the two systems adapt to changes in fuel supply and cost? What are the related effects on the environment? How can each system adapt to greater demand as population increases?

Clearly, a large investment is required for both roads and highways and rail. They are long term investments and the immediate return should only be a part of the consideration.

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:23 AM EDT
my-pockets-r-mt

Something I did not see but would like to know is how many people commute everyday between tampa and orlando?

Would it not make more sense to first connect say tampa and sarasota and down the line or even go north of tampa where more people are likely to commute?

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#1.1 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:38 AM EDT
Man of Knowledge

my-pockets-r-mt

I believe the longer range plan is to install a route down the west coast then across to Miami.

I don't know about numbers but I-4 between Orlando and Tampa is a heavily congested freeway that backs up frequently. They keep expanding the number of lanes but before they are finished the traffic load has already exceeded the capacity to keep the route flowing smoothly.

    #1.2 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
    Venator

    Would it not make more sense to first connect say tampa and sarasota and down the line or even go north of tampa where more people are likely to commute?

    That would be a commuter line to bring people in from outer settlements to the metro area, not so much intercity High Speed Rail which is just for traveling between major cities. You are right, they probably could use a better commuter system overall.

      #1.3 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
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      madvargr

      Good luck with that.

      HSR costs tax dollars. Letting our current highways slowly rot into gravel means more tax cuts for the Owner Class. Guess which one the USA is going to choose.

      On the bright side, if you're ever in Asia, you can travel all over on HSR...

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      Reply#2 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
      Bob O'Malley

      MOK, long-term infrastructure costs are extremely important, as is the unpredictability of future fuel costs. My main objective was to consider the near-term mode choice from the perspective of an individual user. Clearly, there are many factors to consider, some of which I pointed out and some that still require further analysis and discussion.

      Thanks for reading and for your feedback.

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      Reply#3 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT
      Man of Knowledge

      Yes and I found your analysis interesting. I live in the region and regard Florida as ideal rail country because it is a big state, very flat with a lot of land that cannot be developed. Most of the population is concentrated along the coasts so with decent local mass transit Florida could make great strides way from auto/truck tranportation reliance. That is something I heavily favor.

        #3.1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:13 PM EDT
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        Venator

        Very perceptive, looks that you took everything into consideration.

        However, I think you may have missed cost of mass transit, unless I missed it. I mean you said it yourself....what is one to do when they the destination? If the cities that are affected by the new High Speed Rail system are smart, they will look further into Light Rail and other means of transit, to collaborate with HSR. Sure would make moving around a whole lot easier in the denser metro regions.

        It is about time for transportation reform

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        Reply#4 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:34 PM EDT
        Man of Knowledge

        Correct. Personally I think the east coast of florida would be perfect for Personal Automated Transit. It would revolutionize transportation an be a huge attraction for tourists who fly in or take a train. No need to rent a car. Just step into a private cab, dial in your destination and enjoy the ride.

          #4.1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT
          Venator

          Oh I think that could work very well. See that is the key issue, each of these modes; Intecity, light rail, bus, Personal Rapid Transit; should be treated as components and collaborate together. That is how we are truly going to solve a our traveling problems.

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          #4.2 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:10 PM EDT
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          Bob O'Malley

          The key to Florida's success with HSR is that the state plans to build the system entirely on public right-of-way. The system will operate on a separate, sealed, rail corridor (exclusively passenger rail) with highway grade separation.

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          Reply#5 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:46 PM EDT
          Bob O'Malley

          Now that Florida has rejected HSR funding, this article is mostly moot. Still, I think more attention should be given to the true cost of automobile commuting (not to mention freight trucking.) Roads cost considerable tax dollars to build and maintain, and owning and operating an automobile also is expensive. When comparing automobile commuting versus travel, I believe the IRS Standard Mileage rate should be used as a metric.

            Reply#6 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT
            Man of Knowledge

            The cost of personal vehicle tranportation is so huge people don't even think about it.

            • drilling and production operations
            • Vast amounts of land paved over with asphalt and concrete.
            • Air pollution
            • Runoff from roads and highways pollute land and air with toxic waste
            • Cost of traffic law enforcement
            • Infrastructure to deliver fuel to locations
            • pipelines
            • refineries
            • balance of trade
            • fueling stations
            • fuel distribution by truck
            • emergency services for highway accidents
            • traffic control devices
            • urban sprawl
            • drag on consumer liquidity
            • loss of green space
            • etc. etc.
              #6.1 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:22 PM EDT
              Venator

              Man of Knowledge,

              Essentially, everything in bullets is still present when it comes to transportation. Now in lesser quantities certainly, because one is using the space more effectively and moving a lot of people with the system.

              Bob O'Malley,

              There are other rail routes in the country and just because the topic of your analysis has been canceled does not mean you are not correct.

                #6.2 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
                Man of Knowledge

                Rail does not require petroleum to power it. It works very efficiently with electrical power provided from centralized sources. You may use petroleum to generate the electricity but you don't have to. It provides more energy source options. Plus it is a much more efficient use of energy per capita.

                Rail has a much smaller foot print. You don't need things like parking.

                Some of the bullets are still in place but with much less impact such as runoff, air pollution.

                Basically most of the bullet problems go away or are greatly reduced by rail.

                  #6.3 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:47 PM EDT
                  Venator

                  Rail does not require petroleum to power it.

                  Well, maybe not on the NEC, or the purposed California or Florida systems. However, that is the main source of power for U.S. rail at the moment. However, the freight companies are more looking into electrification.

                  It provides more energy source options. Plus it is a much more efficient use of energy per capita.

                  I agree.

                  Rail has a much smaller foot print. You don't need things like parking.

                  Well that is debatable. Probably have to drive to the station or even drive to the commuter line at some point. However, personal rapid transit may counteract that model at some point.

                  Some of the bullets are still in place but with much less impact such as runoff, air pollution.

                  I agree. At least if you use concrete ties instead of wooden ties. It is amazing how much cleaner the rail right-of-ways are over in Europe vs. here in the U.S.

                  Basically most of the bullet problems go away or are greatly reduced by rail.

                  Which is why I made the lesser quantities point.

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                  #6.4 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:59 PM EDT
                  Man of Knowledge

                  Yes, current rail systems are diesel powered, but any new system should not be.

                  Anyone contemplating an interstate rail expansion will admit that to be truly effective it needs to be coupled with better mass transit on a local level. Only a few trains let you take your car with you.

                  I'm a strong supporter of Personal Automated Transport. I'm surprised there is not more interest in it.

                  Imagine not needing to invest huge portions of your income to buy automobiles, maintain them, insure them and fuel them.

                  Imagine not spending a couple of hours a day stuck behind the wheel of a car trying to avoid getting killed or maimed by someone not responsible enough to drive safely.

                  Imagine, rather than having a network of trash strewn asphalt roads and parking lots, instead, having tracts of wooded gardens, parks, pedestrian paths and bikeways.

                  Imagine cleaner air and water.

                  Imagine the country self reliant, not at the mercy of foreign entities.

                  It is possible. All we need is the commitment to do it.

                  Innovative planning can make this country a beautiful garden rather than a grid of asphalt and concrete. Clean air can replace putrid fumes. Personal stress can be reduced and life span extended. It won't be inconvenient, it will be more convenient. It won't cost more, it will cost less.

                  Imagine no automobile traffic. Imagine a park around the mall instead of a parking lot. Imagine spending your commute time reading the newspaper or surfing the net or working. Imagine a casual walk to work through a wooded park.

                  If we don't spend money on roads and traffic infrastructure and instead invest it in a communal transit system we could make America a better place to live and work. Lets tear up all the asphalt to make gardens where roads now exist. The rights of way for a convenient and reliable transit system require much less area than that required for personal automobile transportation. Let's install fuel efficient and quiet monorail or ground rail systems. Initially the cost may be more than the cost of building roads, but there are so many hidden costs to maintaining an automobile economy the overall cost will be less. Besides, the change is inevitable.

                  Let's start electing our leaders for their vision, not for their competence at wealth accumulation. Let's invest in a new kind of infrastructure to enhance the economy, attract business, create jobs, and control growth in a beneficial and viable way.

                  Do we want cities like Atlanta or Los Angeles to be our model? Don't be resigned to the past, take control of the future.

                    #6.5 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:22 PM EDT
                    Venator

                    I could not agree more. Especially when it comes to city driving.

                    The one concept that could counter act high speed rail would be the self-driving car. However, the way I see it, the rails will look more attractive from a psychological perspective. I mean you can't drive, your less free, and really crammed up; I think I would chose the mode that is more "open" and "free" but that is just me.

                    Although, everything you say would be nice.

                      #6.6 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:33 PM EDT
                      Man of Knowledge

                      I'm aware of self driving cars. I don't agree with the essay in your link. The self driving car still carries most of the negatives I listed in my previous comment but in addition to that it will be quite a while before a commercial application of it is available.

                      PAT is available now and requires much less technical sophistication. Airplanes currently can fly themselves but a pilot is still required. With PAT no passenger is required in the vehicle.

                      Imagine a supermarket that did not have a store front, only a distribution center. With a PAT system you could order your groceries online. An automated distribution center would automatically load them into a PAT carrier vehicle and deliver them to your doorstep in less time than it currently takes to go grocery shopping. No human intervention would be required until you unload your groceries. Imagine the convenience and the cost savings. There are thousands of potential new business models that would be enabled by such a system.

                        #6.7 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:21 PM EDT
                        Venator

                        Oh I never really agree with the essay myself for reasons you stated above along with additional concepts. If you like me, it is the actual "driving" that makes being is such a crammed space tolerable.

                        I will never support the automation of airlines. I mean by no means support actions that eliminate good professions.

                        I have heard of the grocery concept and it is nice, but if I do not get out of the house I will....lose....my....mindddddd. :()

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